Response to Liam McCann
My darling nephew Liam,
I was not going to do this as I really did love you, but you think you are playing with the adults so I will treat you as one.
This is my Blog, where I get to post anything I like about anybody and anything.
That is my right as a blogger.
As for your comments about me slagging off your mum, all I posted was that I hold a lot of anger towards her on how she treated myself and my parents, and that I don't care if I see her again. That is not slagging off Liam, It's the truth.
You are only 12 years old Liam, you have no bloody idea what the real world is like or what your mum is really like, and as for your comments Liam, you are bloody clueless, would you like me to tell you the truth huh?
“Liam (the bloggers nephew) said...You said that I was work shy, well considering that I have only been out of work for just under three months, that does not apply to me.
well he shouldn,t be using his blog to to lie and slag off his own sister (my mum). So get your facts straight, if only you knew the real workshy sponging Jason. If he doesnt really believe the comment he wrote about his only living relative he should not have put it up for all to see. My mum has bent over backwards for him over the years.”
Where I live there is a shortage of jobs, but that's what you get living in a small town, and considering that back in Milton Keynes, I worked pretty much all the time, apart from during and after for a short while when my parents passed away, I don't think that I am work shy.
And as for my living relative's, I have relative's all around the country and in other parts of the world, or did your mum never tell you that.
It is my decision not to have anything to do with them.
And your mum has never helped me, all she has ever done is help herself and not give a damn about anybody else especially her parents.
So Liam get your bloody facts straight.
“look you it was no longer a personal page when he came and slagged my mum off in public view. I am 12 and have every right to stick up for my mum for all the crap he has caused. Enough said his day will come when the the debt collectors in MK catch up him . Has anonymous got a name, Jason or Candy perhaps.the reason i am so annoyed about him slagging of my mum other than her always being kind and caring to him he puts it online so the world can see and people like you take his side by the way do you evan know my mum a.k.a the person who bassically brought jason up .”
yet again Liam, my Blog, My personal Views, Get used to it.
And what crap have I caused? Please Liam tell me.
And as for the debt collectors? Considering that I have sorted out my debts, and have no worries where that is concerned, you really are a little bit clueless there mate.
And Melanie being kind and caring, don't make me laugh.
Maybe she is to you Liam, and I really do hope she is as that is what mums are supposed to be like, but she has never been like that to me, all your mum has ever been towards me is a selfish bitch.
And for the record, your mum never brought me up, my parents did that, thank you very much.
“look jason your the funny one because you are the one who everybody hates your the one who lived with grandma until she passed on and made sure that grandma (an o.a.p) was at your beck and call you couldnt get of your fat arse (yes jason i said fat not muscule )to get a job that you try at and not get fired or a flat . you are pure evil i hate you . i cant belive what you said about my mum shes only ever been nice to you and this is how you repay her she was the 1 who brought you up ,DONT CALL MY MUM A BICTH AGAIN .”
Everybody hates me then do they? The only people who hate me are you and your mum, as for the other people who have made comments, well I will get to them later, and even if they hate me, who cares? Cause I don't.
Ok now, kid gloves are now off.
What gives you the bloody right to talk to me about my mum, your grandma like that.
I was the one who gave up my house I was sharing with a friend to move back home to look after mum, after my dad passed away, I was the one who made sure she was alright, that looked after her when she got ill, made sure that all the bills where paid, made sure that dad's funerial was sorted out when neither mum or I had any help from your kind and caring mum, your sweet and helpful mum who did fuck all to help her own mother, she did nothing.
Your mum did not even bring you to see your grandma before she died, and do you know why?
29th april 2001, few days before we buried my dad, I received a text from your wonderful mum saying that after her dad was buried she does not want to have anything to do with me or mum ever again,that we do not exist to her, and that mum will never ever see you again.
Your fantastic mum banned her own mother from seeing you, what kind of person would do that, my mum was heartbroken because of that.
My mum was never at my beck and call, I was the one who was looking after her.
If you cared so much for me and mum back then, why the hell did you not get in touch?
Did you ever ask your mum the reasons why or did you not give a rats arse.
And the reason why I was not working back then was that I was in grief over my dad, I had to be brave for mum, make sure that everything was alright.
You might not know this, but it was mum and I who looked after dad when he was ill, we were the ones who nursed him when he had his heart attack and stroke, we were the ones who were up all night cleaning up after him, making sure that he was breathing,
and carrying him to the toilet.
Where was your mum in all of this? She was just being a selfish bitch as usual.
I was the one who looked after mum until the night she died, do you know that she passed away in my arms? And before she died she said she always loved me, and that I was the one she always cared about. Do you know how that made me feel, seeing her life ebb away in my arms, knowing that I will never ever see again? And you dare have the right to say that you hate me?
“now to get you into reality you selfish bastard your not a jedi you reli dont look good in suits you dont have magic powers sorry sorry because ive just got to go back tohow petty are you? What am I saying, your only a stupid little kid who is totally clueless.
the jedi bit i mean what 31 year old man thinks hes a jedi GET TO REALITY.You say i will find out what my mum is reli like when im older well i already have shes the lovin caring person you will never even dream of being . you seen to find it amusing that people are reading about lil old you (lil dont make me laugh ) what you dont seem to realise is people are amazed at how much shit and twited lies a 31 yesr old man can say . i agree with the person who said that its a good job that grandma and granddad passed on because they would be so ashamed at all the lies you have told about people and all the money you have conned out of people and to see what a nasty peson you have become . these are my words what i think not my mums .”
If you had any bit of reasoning you would have read that was my morale compass on how I feel.
And for your information Liam, Jedi is a recognised Religion!
And have you ever seen me in a suit?, for christ's sake Liam, I used to manage a suit hire department you twat.
Magic powers? Erm yeh right, when have I ever said that?
Oh you must mean my personal belief in the occult and the paranormal, well in fact I am a trainee medium, and I am a great believer in the unknown, so is your wonderful mum.
She really is a witch...or is that a bitch, I can't really tell these days.
You mean to tell me that I will never be like your mum, THANK GOD!
Who the hell would want to be like her anyway, I am my own person, I am not a sheep like most people in this country, and I do have a lot of people who care about me and think I'm wonderful anyway, hey just ask my wife, she will tell you.
What I do find amusing Liam is that there is a lot of sad people who can't wait to see me take a fall and hang around reading my Blog waiting for a little kid to make comments.
I've got a pretty good idea who these people are and they are sad and pathetic, who live in a bubble where they expect to find out the worse info about me.
And to top it off, what is so funny is how a 12 year old kid will place his identity on this blog while other people are so cowardly that they will not identify themselves.
My parents were never ashamed of me, but they were ashamed of your mum, and I bet you they are looking down at you right now and wishing that you turned out a lot nicer.
So to summarise this blog entry Liam, you are clueless in regards to me and the relationship I did have with your mum. So stop being an idiot and go back to enjoying the summer hoildays like any other normal boy, and leave things you don't know about to the grown ups.
Your darling Uncle Jason.
posted by Jason @ 1:56 PM
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14 Comments:
Ok, I can see where this
"I've got a pretty good idea who these people are and they are sad and pathetic, who live in a bubble where they expect to find out the worse info about me.
And to top it off, what is so funny is how a 12 year old kid will place his identity on this blog while other people are so cowardly that they will not identify themselves."
is going to go. And for the record until this I had pretty much never posted to your blog except to congratulate you, although you did once ACCUSE me WRONGLY after our falling out, of posting something when infact I hadn't done so.
I posted the following:-
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"Anonymous said...
I think it's really sad that people only come here to stir trouble.
This is the guys bloody journal for Gods sake, he can write whatever the Hell he feels like. Doesn't mean he really thinks it or believes it.
Anonymous said...
I'm sure a lot of people have helped him over the years, doesn't mean you can come here and complain about his own personal thoughts. If you don't like what he reads, it's quite simple.
DON'T READ IT.
If you disagree about it that much why don't you two be the "bigger" person/people and ignore what he's typing rather then coming and making snarky comments at him.
Anonymous said...
Yes I do have a name, and no it's not Jason or Candy.
I understand and commend you wanting to stick up for your Mum, I just don't see the point in doing it here. He's got complete freedom of speech and if, as you say, he's always slagging her off, then why bother to read it?
And really, if your Mum has a problem with this, she should say so herself rather then sending her 12 year old child to do it.
I guess I just don't understand what causing chaos on this website is going to achieve... "
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I also posted congratulating you on your recent marriage, but I can't find it now.
So please don't go on your whole "This is all the evil Sarah-Jean" thing again. I have never posted anything bad about you and it's annoying when you post slagging me off, saying I have done.
Now speaking from horribly bitter experience, can we please get back to the gossip about your life now? And forget the trolls! Trolls ruined my public journal, I wish I'd just ignored them and carried on regardless now.
your really quite spineless aren't you jason, slagging a 12 year old like that...and thats after your wife had a go too! of course you have relatives all over the world...but its not through your choice you see nothing of them....your dad's family disowned him when he married your mum and want nothing to do with you. thats not your fault i know but yet another example of the lies you tell which it would seem you have now actually started to believe. but thats what happens when people live in a fantasy world..to them it becomes true. i could go on with many examples of this...why did you take money from your sister if you hate her....why go and visit her for a week? but whats the point....your delusions will never let you accept the truth and take the blame for anything will they? i can only hope that your friends who have read your response to a 12year old boy will look on in disgust and see you for what you really are.
mmmm and by your own admission you were living away from home when your dad died, after a long illness."I was the one who gave up my house I was sharing with a friend to move back home to look after mum, after my dad passed away"...how were you doing that if you were looking after him? and your mum died suddenly so don't pretend you were nursing her!
your beyond contempt you fat twat
ooops almost forgot but jay, just because you worked in a suit hire shop does not by definition mean you look good in suits, you worked in a florists too but you still have terrible b.o.!
Hmm spineless you say, whilst still hiding behind an anonymous post. Ironic really isnt it? Slagging off someone for defending their personal feelings in an online journal, after a torrent of abuse, that is not contemptable?
Liam being 12 has no relevence, if he chooses to make comments/accusations like these, expect a response, particularly if they are insulting and derogatory. That goes both ways, to Jason and Liam. Jason wrote his feelings down, they may not have pictured his sister in a shining light, but they were no where near offensive enough to require the degree of insulting response posted here.
By the way the attempt at being a smart arse didn't work very well, Libel refers to "Published printed media sold in a public retail format." i.e. newspapers magazines and the like. Slander does encompass comments made on pages like this, in an amendment made in 1992 public forums, comment sheets, chat systems and websites were classed as public communication, at a level of the spoken word. Sorry,but I tend to be better at being a smart arse than most, all the while having the courage to stand free of anonymous shields.
For someone who claims to have such a full and important "Real world" it's funny how you keep returning here to comment on Jasons blog. Your self-importance knows no bounds it seems. If you had any honour, valour or even true validity you would stand proud and announce your presence.
It is not Jasons defence that disgusts me but comments like yours, without showing your true identity you deem yourself worthy of throwing insult? You seem to think yourself to be of a higher moral standard, of a greater code of behaviour yet, comments such as "knob jockey" "fat twat" demonstrate a level of childish spite I would have expected more from the 12 year old Liam. Liam is trying to defend his principals, he does so with courage even if he isn't entirely clued in on the situation. If nothing else that has to be respected, much more so than your comments Anon.
Exactly what did Jason do to you to bring about such a need to denegrate him on a blog page that isn't likely to be read by many, if any, outside of Jason's life? Your sad display here shows a desperate need for attention and validation that your "Real world" obviously does not provide. It smacks of a lonely, impotent individual only capable of satisfying their social desires by tearing down the targets of their own envy.
But enough of the analysis, if you want to be taken seriously try putting your name up. It makes a big difference. You seem to want to prove your allegedly deep and detailed knowledge of Jason, and his oh so terrible secrets (Can you sense the sarcasm there?)But when you try this from behind the tired masquerade of the anonymous poster you merely display the malice in your own heart, your own heart of darkness and lies.
SJ not trying to stir trouble with you, but I didn't see anything accusing you of wrong doing here? By posting initials, which identify you to those who need to know, you have already risen above this anonymous accuser.
In the end this blog is Jasons personal journal space, it is a place for him to celebrate any joy, and vent any misery. As has been said before, if you don't like it don't read it. Peoples feelings change day in day out, situations arise that make you feel like screaming and tearing your hair out, if Jason takes those feelings and puts them on this page it is his right. It also holds no real significance in the existance of those written about, because it is all about his personal feeling at the time, not about the strictest letter of the law "Reality". If those impugned choose to respond that is their right too, but doing so anonymously is cowardly and pitiful.
These are my thoughts, and feelings after reading this blog and the following comments. If you feel the need to make further comment about Jason, myself or any others please have the decency to identify yourself. Thank you.
Carl Defriend
Oh and I forgot to mention, there seems to be a very distinct variation of style and literacy in the posts allegedly made by Liam throughout this little discussion. It makes me question whether all of these post are in fact made by him, or if some were in fact posted by another individual also trying to mask their identity. A rather important element to ponder particularly with all the accusations of lies and nefarious behaviour.
Go back and take a look for yourself, many of the earlier posts certainly seem very different to the later, somewhat inarticulate posts.
Anyway i'll catch the responses later, this whole overblown situation has caught my attention now. Intriguing :D
Carl Defriend
mmm interesting but not very worthwhile, i note you again seem to jump to the defence of a 31 year old man and his wife while laying critisism at the door of a 12 year old who's mother is being slagged off.
i see less point in putting up my name...is Carl Defriend or azimouth4 a real name? since carl seems to doubt the sender of liams posts is always the same person, why should he believe. oh carl here's a web link for you...its a site called libel for idiots....which when you read it you will see apply's to you! not as smart as you would like to seem eh? http://www.urban75.com/Action/libel.html
i have no reason to hide my identity but i have no reason to reveal it either...certianly not because you wish to know it. Also sarcasm works best when you don't need to point it out....or maybe you think your so very clever a mere mortal such as myself wouldn't get it? you certainly do seem to think a lot of yourself.
I would also disagree with you that liams comments have been as offensive as jason's...i didn't notice where liam called his uncle a twat but thats obviously ok for jason to call liam in your book eh?
tell me carl where did i give you the impression i was self important? surely if that were the case i would have my own blog...be someone who considers his every thought and movement worthy of publishing on the net? i'm afraid not...i have no such delusions unlike some on here.
nope, i have followed jason's blog for sometime, have known jason for many years and decided only to comment when his delusions became lies. jason can imagine himself to be whatever he wishes and his life to be whatever he likes but why he feels the need to lie about others on here still escapes me.
You make me laugh carl, you really do, can jason not defend himself? can he not answer some of the questions posed in earlier comments? yes some of what i have said about jason is childish... name calling.... but then i'm aiming it at his level...he's happy to do it to others so why not?
i find it strange carl that you feel someone who chooses to not to give a name is considered "cowardly and pitiful" when if as you say " It also holds no real significance in the existance of those written about, because it is all about his personal feeling at the time"
surely if that were true you would have not felt the need to comment either? for what i write will not hold any significance to jason or anyone who know's him...just as what he writes should be ignored by those he writes about. but then why blog? hugs annon
Carl Defriend is my name, azimouth4 is a username identifying someone we know. Whilst you still remain scared of revealing your pathetic identity, obviously afraid of the backlash. The information Jason or one of us others must have on you must be remarkable, for you to feel it necessary to hide so.
Yes I choose to defend Jasons right to express his feelings, he did so openly and honestly on his page. Something you clearly cannot manage, if you actually told us who you were we might understand why you hold so much hatred/envy for Jason.
I also chose to defend Liam to a degree, which is something you were clearly not intelligent enough to notice. His right to respond is clear and well defined, the fact that he doesn't understand the entire situation, and the breakdown into childish insults is what I felt was unnecessary and as I said before that goes both ways to Jason and Liam (Guess you didn't notice that part either, eh?). I gave him far more respect than I would ever give the masked avenger you see your self as, but hey white knights always fall so you should truly stay hidden, coward, lest your identity be tarnished by your deeds. Because if those who know you found out what despicable acts you are involved in, maybe they wouldn't want to be around you. Or is that what already happened?
Once again your attempt at intelligent response fails you when you try to defame me for pointing out very distinct differences in the writing style and literacy (that refers to spelling and grammatical mistakes, just to bring you up to speed) of Liams alleged posts. For example the use of the word "really" in earlier posts then reverting to the more childlike "Reli" later on. If you actually take on board that and many other stylistic variations, not common in text produced by the same person you would understand my comment. The first few posts allegedly made by Liam seem to be designed more to goad a more unpleasant and angry response from Jason. The reference to Debbie is carefully thought out, as another example it is inconsistent with the clearly juvenile torrent of insults poured out later on. That torrent also contains information poorly used in the manner of someone having been coached into writing about something they actually don't know/understand, and the desperate comment of "These are my thoughts not my mums" in an attempt to wash over this issue. To anyone with even the most basic analytical skill there is something obviously suspicious about the posts. So yes I question the valid identity on the earlier posts. Oh and by the way the quote the use of "twat" for your reference shows again your inability to notice the details and context of the post, YOU were the person I was refering to making such comments.
Why would I have any need to hide my identity? I have no fear of reproach, no fear of your attempts at rebuttal. I do not hide my identity to protect any weakness or ineptitude. The link you posted is from a news site and holds no value in terms of legislation. The amendments put in place were used in several medium profile cases over the last few years, try researching Hutchins vs Collings 1995 a rather interesting case brought about over comments on a web forum. You might have to actually go beyond your comfort zone of anonymous computers and actually look into some law texts.
The reason I pointed out the sarcasm, was due to the level of self importance you have placed on yourself. Such coments are often lost on people who process information the way you do. How do I know you derive your sense of worth from these actions? From being rather well versed in psychological profiling. The supercilious manner in which you aproach the situation, the comments you make about Jason and his family show a deep rooted sense of superiority. But the severe insecurity displayed when you are questioned about your identity, the unjustified nature of your comments in a situation that does not involve you in any way, is blatantly obvious. Your breakdown into petty insults rather than any constructive criticism, your haphazard approach to detail display a sloppy unorganised mind, clearly driven not by a sense of true justice but of destructive, intentional malevolence. But these lowerings of tone and standards your delusions of grandeur are shown for what they are. How do we know you aren't posting your every move and thought on the Net, Anon? To fuel your bloated self-image? You could quite easily have a dozen blogs for your delusions, lies and putrid hate. You clearly deem yourself important enough to lord yourself over Jasons page. You choose to misquote me again when refering to my comment on the significance of what Jason wrote in his blog. What is insignificant is the statement he made about unresolved anger towards his sister (which is an issue that could have been worked upon), not the fact that anonymous cowards make heartless, cruel comments about the situation, particularly when it has nothing to do with them. If this situation had anything to do with you, then you would have the courage to name yourself. That is what I felt the need to comment on. You claim to know Jason well, obviously not well enough. You make yourself out to be a pillar of truth, defending the just when all you are is a snivelling coward seeking revenge for some deluded, probably invented slight.
I am still trying to see what he lies he told about others on this page. He expressed his feelings about his relationship with his sister, how is that a lie? You have so little to actually use to "prove" your point that you resort to the petty insults, and unpleasant commentary. You even find it terribly amusing to come back after one post to place a purely insulting comment about Jasons opinion of how he looks in suits, then his personal hygeine. It was an uncalled for utterly childish and pointless comment, drawn once again purely from your spiteful and vindictive nature. That is not dropping to his level, that is finding an all new low of your very own.
Jason can indeed defend himself, not as frequently due to his limited net access, but he will. The more important point is that he has people that will defend him, can you say the same? Is that why you hide like the yellow-bellied coward you truly are? I have known far to many people like you and I am willing to stand up against faceless accusers, who actually don't know as much as they think. Which is once again, if you bothered to notice, why most of my comments are directed towards you.
Liam, Jason and Melanie have a lot of issues to deal with. I know a lot of what has gone on in the past. I know how Jason has felt about the situation with his parents, I was there helping him through his grief, Were you? I know much of how his mother felt because I knew her too and spoke to her about many things, some of which even Jason probably doesn't know that I know.
What really doesn't help the situation at all is vicious comments from outsiders like you, Anon. This whole situation has been overblown and has degenerated, because of you; Stirring the pot, trying to make things worse. You disgust me, as all cowards and liars do. Your comments only hold significance because unlike Jasons post that triggered these responses, your comments were specifically designed to be destructive. That is the huge difference between Jasons comment of retained anger towards the past relationship with his family, and your vile diatribes of despicable, derisive filth. With so much hatred in your heart towards Jason, really why are you here? If Jason is so deluded and worthless in your opinion, why do you bother following his blog for so long waiting for your opportunity to pounce? It seems to me that your insignificant little life has nothing better to fill your time with, which I find terribly sad. You have my sincerest pity, and well wishes in regard to you finding something anything in your life that is positive and helps pull you away from this downward spiral of misguided cruelty. Growth comes when we let go of the little things that hold us back, free yourself of hate and envy, then maybe you can move on. Hell go start your own blog to vent your unfortunate bile on any unsuspecting public who might troll on to your page.
Standing truthfully as myself, with honour and valour.
Carl Defriend
dearest carl, i'm truly sorry as i seem to have upset you in some way? If you read the comments i left some time ago you will see that i have never fallen out with jason and hold no grudge against him. I'm sure you would like to believe that you can profile me using your vast inteligence and making judgements based on very limited information, but you would be wrong, i'm afraid giving my name wouldn't really help much either since we have never met, but then that wouldn't stop someone so clearly pompus and full of their own self importance making a judgement would it?
Here's in the compact oxford english dictionary's definition of the word libel..
• noun 1 Law the publication of a false statement that is damaging to a person’s reputation. Compare with SLANDER. 2 a written defamation.
does that help you at all? maybe you should write and tell them they have got it wrong? i'm sure they will be pleased to alter things for you!
climb out of your own arse for just a second and ask jason why he took his sisters money, why he was able to spend a week with her if he hates her so, and why he feels the need to construct a fantasy world to live in.
I could give my name but why? so jason could write lies about me? You would be none the wiser as we have never met. So we could conduct a slanging match on line as we seem to have started already?
if the issues jason has with his sister are the ones he told liam about then if you were a true friend of his your time would be better spent encouraging him to work through them with his sister, maybe to have spoken to her as an adult rather than posting his issues for the world to read.
you know jason and you knew his mother and i presume his father as i did. Do you think they would be happy that their son and daughter are in this situation?
i await you response with interest....maybe you will suprise me by answering some of these questions but i'm begining to think i will just recieve more abuse and interest in my name....which while it seems to be of great interest to you has no bearing on the issue. :)
Carl, seeing as you have very limited idea's of me, I don't really want to get into a slanging match with you. I never had anything but the highest respect for you but apparently that wasn't reciprocated although that's neither here nor there right now as I know nothing of you and you know nothing of me.
Jason made a couple of comments on one of his old journals directed at me, as a result of comments he'd recieved in response to his posts. He judged them to be by me, even though they weren't (I think they were about me but can't really remember) and responded using my name. However, that's the past and the past matters nothing really.
I have to say I was somewhat saddened by Candy's response to a 12 year old child. Jason had always spoken very highly of her, and the one time I met her I actually really did like her although I was a bit upset that she spent the night avoiding me. All I can say in defense of Jay's sister and nephew is that if someone spoke to one of my boys as Jason and his wife have spoken to Liam I would knock them out.
Whilst I may not agree with what Liam has said, I don't think it's right to speak to a child as though he was an adult. He clearly is not an adult and is not really involved in the despute so why bring him into it more then his Mother has already and slag him off so publicly?
But that's besides the point. I like reading how Jason is doing, even though we are no longer speaking, I still wish him well as we were really good friends (in my opinion at least). Jason has full rights to write what he wishes, and Liam should stay out of this. The dispute is between Jay and his sister, not Jay and Liam and I think it's kind of sick that someone would attack a child in this way, even though I kind of agree with the sentiments of it all.
The crux of the matter is Jason has the legal right to post his feelings and thoughts whether Liam, his Sister, his Friends, his Enemies or the casual reader likes it or not. And really we should all leave him alone to his own thoughts rather then beating him up or defending him over them.
This is my last post on the matter and I wish Jason well in his future and Liam well in his own future. Keep to your studies kid, if you don't you'll one day regret it - believe me!
Just to add, I'm actually quite shy, hence the reason I never approached Candy on the occasion I met her as I was nervous about what to say... As for the time I supposedly laughed at her letter to me, I was embarrassed as noone had ever written such a letter to me and I thought it was kind of sweet but had no idea how I was supposed to respond.
look it is me liam who is writing this coments it can not be my mother because she has already put a couple of comments and used her name so why then would she put her name on a couple of comments and use mine on others.jason be man enough to answer my calls.by the way carl i will stick up for anonymous seeing as he stuck up for me and that he seems to know me and mum well.
now i may only be 12 and all of the people who have put comments are adults i KnoW what im talkin about and am not clueless. i know all about jason, most things i can not say over the internet, but i can say most of this blog is evil lies such as all the stuff about grandma dying in your arms. where do you get of lying about how your mother died. .candy i liked you too but now your as bad as jason, oh and about people laughing at me in the street ,it was in the corn exchange because id purposely dressed up silly for jason coming over, and my mum stuck up for me not jason because he was too busy looking in a comic shop for 45 minutes . now that you have suddenly cleared up all your debts you can pay my mum back her hundred pounds. man how nasty is she, she gave you money, i can see why you resent my mum.
oh really dont call my mum a bitch AGAIN
Firstly, Anon the problem I have with you is that you remain anonymous, whether I know you or not is not the issue, to make faceless accusations is the act of a coward. But I shall move on to more constructive elements.
Climbing out of my own arse...as you say. :D From what Jason has told me about the questions you ask, he took the money because he was in desperate need and it was offered. He spent a week with his sister mainly to spend some time with Liam who he used to love and care for dearly (regardless of the issues I believe he can work things out with Liam and his sister given time). As for the alleged fantasy world, those who live without the smallest fantasy/desire in their hearts are poorly developed and generally miserable people. Fantasy is after all a persons hopes and dreams for a better life. As for how Jasons parents may have felt about the situation, they would not be happy (who would be happy with rifts in the family) and when she was alive his mother wasn't happy with the amount of contact she had with Liam.
The problems between jason and his sister go a long way back, and will take a lot of effort to work through them in any way. Having some anonymous accuser joining the insult throwing will help nothing. If you claim to have had no fall out, and hold no grudge, then why stalk his blog waiting to spout insults at him? Again if you are so concerned about the situation why don't you offer something constructive, advise both sides to calm down, rethink and come at this situation afresh. If you are someone they know then such words from you would carry weight, wouldn't they? These comments aren't here as abuse, they are designed as logical reasoning, please take them as such.
As I have stated before I am more concerned about the general decline into insults and name calling from both sides, than what actually started this off.
Liam to respond your comment in a respectful, adult manner (as it is more constructive to do so, and I would rather not lower the tone any further) it is very common for people to abuse the anonymity of such places as this to further their own aims. To use someone elses identity is easy, or to hide behind total anonymity is even easier. It allows people to turn situations like this into a horrible mess, as has happened here. There are several distinct elements of style which have been suspicious in your postings, if they are all yours fair enough. But they have been suspicious, with the issues between you mother and uncle such unpleasant tricks are often expected.
It's a shame you don't actually know Jason as well as you think, and mostly through your mother it seems. You have many misconceptions and some very incorrect information. The facts about your Grandmothers death are true, Jason called me utterly devestated and distraught shortly after and told me what had happened.
Now please understand, I do not support the insults thrown by either side in this argument. There are very strong feelings involved, which when left unchecked lead to such outbursts. They will not help, they will not resolve anything. I know you care about your mother, but believe me she is not as innocent as you think, NOONE is. Everyone has done things out of selfish greed, spite, anger and between siblings this is very common. There is a great deal you won't have been told because you are only hearing it from the one source, that source certainly won't give you all the details. If you truly care about your family, you need to find a way to work through this, without torrents of abuse. That goes for everyone involved, not just Liam, please understand that.
Jason loved you dearly, Liam, from the way he used to talk about you anyone would think the world revolved around you. Right now he feels angry and betrayed, so do you, these feelings blind you to important facts. You are still very young, and do not know enough about the world, about people, and certainly not enough about the situation between your Uncle and Mother. Antagonising each other will only make things worse, is that what you really want? I hope that is not the case, for either side.
SJ, please re-read my comment to you. It was meant respectfully, I had seen no evidence of accusations directed at you in this blog, and therefore did not understand why you reacted so defensively. I also attempted to compliment you because you did identify yourself, unlike others. If you thought it was meant in a negative way I apologise as that was not my intent.
Standing truthfully as myself, with honour and valour.
Carl Defriend
To all those who have commented that I should not have "spoken" to a 12year old as I did, I can see your point. But it was clearly stated by the boy that he was old enough to put his own opinions across. He said many things that I disagreed with, should I have not replied, because he is a mere boy and knows no better? No, he wanted to talk and be treated like an adult, thus he should be treated as one. I as everyone else commended his reasoning, I only held problem with his voicing of opinions about his Grandparents. I will not be swayed by anyone's opinion of that! It was out of line, and maybe as a boy, he was unaware of the amount of pain he could cause. All that I said was true, no one who has lost a parent would say anything bad about them. I know because I lost my Father 2years ago, and you know what? It still hurts like hell! So anon, love, think what you like I am not some simpleton to be swayed by your words. You are filled with such hatred and bile, that it must be eating you up. Deal with it and move on, or you will forever wounded by matters you cannot change.
What anyone who reads this blog will understand, is that there are ALWAYS consequences to everything we do. There are obvious consequences to Jason posting his life, dreams, hopes and desires on the net, even though he has been doing so for a long time,(over 5yrs), with no such outflowing of hatred being returned to him. I have actually read them all, as I have known Jason for 3yrs now. He has changed so much. The old blogs were full of such bitterness and pain, as is understandable when going through the pain of losing any family member. But Jason made the bravest choice in his life, to move up to this part of the country with me. I can only commend him for restarting a life that was full of bad memories. He has moved on so much it still amazes me that "people" talk about him in such an alien fashion. I guess you guys just don't know him. But that remains your loss.
Sj.
I am sorry that when we met, that our wires got crossed, I did not mean to make you feel in the slighest ignored. All I wanted to do that evening, was meet all of Jay's friends, about whom he spoke such wonderful things. I'm sorry, but the way he talked about you, I assumed you were very confident in all matters. I did not realise until talking with Jay, half an hour ago, that you could be shy too!
I felt very cautious about writing that letter to you, as all I wanted to do was let you know in some way, that although Jay was moving away, that I was not the kind of person, to just use him. I adore him more than life itself, and trust me I have never done anything like this, but I have never felt so happy, and I know this is corny, but, complete.
Soul mates do extist and I am the luckiest woman in the world to have found mine.
Thank you for your kind comments and take care.
I'm just sorry that other people cannot see, that people move on and when happiness can be found you have to take it with both hands or risk losing it forever.Waiting until someone has done that and then trying in vain to tear them down is pointless. But anon, whoever you are, you are wasting your time, effort and stomach acid.
Move on, there are no lies here, no lies to see, move along people.
Candy, i don't know you or pretend to, your letter to liam was horrible but i understand why you wrote it....because someone you love was being attacked....well thats why liam wrote his letter too, if you can understand that then maybe you two can sort out your differences, all you know of jay is the few years you have been together and what he has told you, all liam know's of his mother is his whole life so he will always believe her....maybe neither of them is always 100% honest all of the time, and perspective will alter truth regardless.
Jason are your unresolved issues now resolved? i would doubt it. perhaps in future you would learn that posting thoughts which are bound to give offence to others will serve no purpose other than to create bad feeling and more issues.
Liam, you have every right to defend those you love, when people say you should be treated as an adult and then respond like childern themselves you should take no notice of them and what they say.
SJ you have been the fairest and calmest of all who posted, i hope this has caused you not too much distress.
Carl...:) you don't know me although you seem to have built up a profile...you say you are " well versed in psychological profiling" does that mean you actually did it for a living? i do hope not as your really not very good at all...or did you just mean you have seen a few episodes of cracker? you speak of white knights, of honor and valor, how your "more of a smart arse than most" i'm sorry but i just don't see it. I'm glad that you spoke to jason however and he's answered some of the questions which had been asked. Your issue seems to be with my identity more so than what i have written, alas carl, i must face your terrible wrath once more?
you have the right to think and write whatever you like, of the "lonely, impotent, cowardly ,pitiful, pathetic,scared,despicable,spiteful,vindictive snivelling coward" you see me as. I have the right to stay anonymous,and i choose to do this for reason's i need not (although i have tried) to explain to you. must go now...quincy is on and i've always wanted to be well versed in the art of the investigative coronor ;)
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